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Table of Contents
- Do you do installations?
- You are selling Bluetooth Car kits, BMW mic's,
etc.; do I have to buy these items from you?
- What phones work well with your kit(s)?
- How good is the voice recognition, anyway?
- The caller sometimes hears a buzz or humm on
the line - what is that?
- Can you help me even though I don't
have the 640 phone prewiring option in my BMW?
- What's the difference between Argos
and the BMW OEM Bluetooth System?
- Which version of the BMW ULF are you
shipping with your kits?
We do not perform installations on a normal basis. If you are in
or near the Macon, Georgia area please contact us as we will be
happy to personally walk you through the installation process. We
can also recommend installers here in town. Most customers that
have chosen to have their equipment installed for them have found it
to cost around $50 to $75 (national range).
Of course you do not! We are offering various components to our customers but you may purchase it from a
dealer if you choose.
For the OEM Retro-fit products, we can even modify your own ULF
if you would prefer to do it that way. (Please call for details)
Any Bluetooth 1.1 compatible phone will work with our Argos
product provided it has Handsfree or Headset profiles. There
are variations amongst manufacturers as to what features work via
Bluetooth. Most of our customers have either Sony Ericsson,
Motorola or Nokia Bluetooth phones and have no issues. We suggest you visit the phone
manufacturer websites or this
discussion group for for more questions about Bluetooth car kits
and phones. You may also wish to check out our own links page for
more information sources.
The OEM Retro-fit kits require the Bluetooth compatible phone to
have Handsfree profile for operation. This will rule our some of
the "smartphones" on the market today, such as the Sony Ericsson
P900.
That's a mighty good question! Voice recognition involves so
many factors that it can range from great to useless. It is
important to understand that the phone is doing the recognition for
the Argos product and
performance can vary greatly by manufacturer - ensure that you have
recorded the names in a quiet environment in a normal voice. Other
factors include road and wind noise.
You may wish to try recording your voice tag while in the car -
some phones support actually recording the voice tag via the
bluetooth kit. Otherwise try recording the voice tag using your
cell phone's mic with the phone a couple feet from your mouth.
Voice activation operation (within the OEM Retro-fit kit product
line ) functionality varies with the build date and model of your
BMW. Voice tags will need to be recorded in the Bluetooth module
(not in the phone) for this functionality. Voice activation of a
number of navigation commands is supported with the BMW OEM
Bluetooth system.
The caller sometimes hears a
buzz or humm on the line - what is that?
The OEM microphones are a sophisticated bit of hardware with active
electronics in the BMW, Mercedes, and Jaguar. It was originally designed for use
with hardwired phone systems. It does, however, have a propensity
to pick up RF noise from the GSM frequencies. BMW is also aware of
this and makes reference to in its own Bluetooth installation
guides. We suggest playing with the phone location in the car for
the least humm. Placing the phone directly below the heat/AC
controls is a good spot as well as keeping it in your pocket. You
may also wish to consider using a cradle that will utilize an external antenna and get the GSM RF
energy outside the cabin.
For those of you outside the US where your BMW might have
been delivered without the pre-wiring necessary for BMW cell phone
installation, you are in luck. We make a harness that
will allow integration in your car. You can have the
steering wheel controls (if your car is so equipped) and radio mute
but will likely need to use a non-BMW mic. We recommend professional installation should you choose
this route as you will need to remove the radio. Contact us for
more information.
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Argos Benefits over OEM Retrofit |
BMW OEM Retrofit Benefits over Argos |
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Support for a larger range of
phones.
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Support for a much larger range
of BMW vehicles.
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Bluetooth 1.2 Compatible
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One box solution for easy
installation. No need for pairing button or other
parts.
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Features phonebook lists of
missed calls, dialed calls, received calls.
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Ability to mute microphone.
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Ability to take call private on
the handset during a call.
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Ability to originate a call or
end a call from the handset.
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Voice activation uses voice
tags in the phone. No need for separate tags
recorded in the Bluetooth module.
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About 40% less expensive than
OEM.
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Allows for pairing of multiple
phones (not simultaneous use, though).
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Voice control supports some
navigation system functions.
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Voice control allows for
dialing individual numbers.
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SMS display (phone and service
dependent)
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systems support the following features: |
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Caller-id (calling number only) |
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Phonebook upload (phone dependent) |
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integration with steering wheel controls, radio display,
navigation display, radio mute, etc. |
| Ability
to optionally utilize BMW Snap-in-adapters for phone
charging and external antenna use. |
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Installation requires not cutting or splicing of wiring in
the car. |
If you are asking the question then you have no doubt done
research and are concerned about compatibility. You may also
know that all the ULF modules are made for BMW by Visteon.
Visteon is no longer making these modules so when they are gone from
BMWs stock they will be discontinued. At this point, the only
modules available from BMW are the 84 21 69 34 552 versions.
We will help you ensure compatibility with your phone when you
purchase your kit. The only downside to this module is that it
does not support SMS text (many phones don't support that via
Bluetooth anyway). There is nothing wrong with these units
despite what you might have read elsewhere. If you do not wish
to purchase this module you may acquire your own module and we will
still assist you with the other components needed for your unique
installation.
We sometimes carry the "387" module for those convinced that the
552 module is not for them. Please inquire.
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